Path: rambo.bobo.net!xs4all!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!news.tele2.nl!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: "Shattered" minds Date: 20 Nov 1998 17:22:56 PST Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Lines: 45 Message-ID: <3656130b.305581@news.concentric.net> References: <36434818.32145259@news.tiac.net> <36526d02.43779474@news.tiac.net> <71ur44$n4n@enews2.newsguy.com> <3654234e.33527137@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <3655d896.2083312@news.concentric.net> <3657e2bc.106602719@news.wwa.com> <733p85$ql@enews1.newsguy.com> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts034d11.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: rambo.bobo.net alt.religion.scientology:146308 "Rebecca Hartong" : yhn >>> Altho her model could be roughly translated to "you pulled it in", >>>blamethevictim thinking. Fraud Buster wrote in message <3657e2bc.106602719@news.wwa.com>... >>That is exactly what i called her on earlier in another thread, but >>instead she just talked about my not adequately snipping the previous >>thread . > >You're mistaken. The reason I abandoned our earlier discussion is because >of your insistance on putting words into my mouth (er...onto my monitor.) >You had constructed a strawman that had nothing to do with what I had >actually written. But you do see how what you have written about our shattered minds could easily be interpreted as blaming the victim (or mark, as I prefer to be called.) Don't you, Rebecca? Why don't you explain how your model (shattered minds = cultbait) if different from blame the victim. >The great majority of those people, though, experiment with one >or more unusual belief systems, quit within a few months, and then go on >with their lives a little wiser for the experience. Rosy picture, Rebecca. Too bad it didn't work that way in Lisa McPherson's case. I'm sure I could name dozens of friends who fall outside your cute little model. >The question that is >being discussed is why some few people seem to have been unable to recover >from their experiences with these groups. And that is a question you yourself need to ask yourself, Rebecca. Or better yet, ask the people who are still trying to recover. But this time listen to what they have to say. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *