Path: rambo.bobo.net!xs4all!xs4all!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news.stanford.edu!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: "Shattered" minds Date: 21 Nov 1998 10:06:09 PST Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Lines: 152 Message-ID: <3659fe0c.5278720@news.concentric.net> References: <36434818.32145259@news.tiac.net> <36526d02.43779474@news.tiac.net> <71ur44$n4n@enews2.newsguy.com> <3654234e.33527137@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <3655d896.2083312@news.concentric.net> <3657e2bc.106602719@news.wwa.com> <736jt9$7g9$1@camel19.mindspring.com> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts029d37.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: rambo.bobo.net alt.religion.scientology:146503 "Jeaux" : > >There is a psychological archtype, A bad caricatured, really. >a woman who fell so hard for a man who >could express his vulnerability--then she was jilted. Then she dons her >brass tits and will no longer tolerate that anyone could have needs. Are you talking about someone you think you know? >Rebecca is "estrogen with nails". Twit. >She believes that the only way to get it >is to pull it in. Scienotwit. >She will never admit that someone may have "pushed it >in". Trying to translate this gibberish, Rebecca: do you think there are predatory culprits at work in attracting brain-dead followers for cash? And do you believe they should be prevented from preying, even on those who were pre-shattered? >She is like a causative vacuum cleaner. And you are still like a brain-dead cultie. >She is ideal bait for >Hubbo-fleece, in that she cannot admit to victim. She'd be the last to fall for a scam like we did. >Yet Hubbard taught that vulnerability is the key characteristic of the >"Social Personality"--priming his prey to become even more vulnerable to his >sadism. True fact. > "If you are not vulnerable then you are a Socio-Path and will be >declared!" You've really hit on something here! That was the social conditioning. And if you feel like complaining about your "faith" it's like painting a target on oneself saying "Yea, I'm doing that." >Scrambling to assure everyone he is not a socio-path, the mark >bellies-up, surrendering anything of value. "...but please don't call me a >socio-path". I'm sure you were plenty weird before you got into the cult. >Scientology is the tar-baby. Hubbard is Brer Rabbit crying "...but whatever >you do, please don't throw me in the briar patch!" Our motive, that stuck us to him was not to beat up or challenge Elrong, so your even associating him with the term is offensive to tarbabies everywhere, and to My Dear Uncle, Remus. >But it's only a metaphor! 73) Do people edge away from you when you try to communicate with metaphors? >Unshattered mirrors need no glue. Stop that, you dipshit. >The attraction of Scientology was "help". Getting some and giving back more. >Those who need help (and fall for that tease) naturally take interest in >Scientology. "Shattered" is one of the archtypal traits leading people to >seek out religious solutions. So you really agree with Rebecca? >When the little boy is beaten by bullies, he >runs home to mommie. The anti-social in you believes that he is a >sissy--until it happens to you. I don't believe there is such a thing as "sissydom". >Being shattered is not deviant behavior! What with thousands of little >Hubbards running lose, we all get into trouble and need help occasionally. >When the Hubbards pose as the "help", THAT requires some legislation or >other outside help. You are torturing helpless words. >The abusive, sadistic, authoritarian Command Channels in Scientology, >guarantee the vulnerable, shattered person a niche of participation. As long as they go along with the program. >It >guarantees the brass coated person, who has "learned" not to be vunerable, a >position of power over others. Regimentation is a solution to "fear of >vulnerability" and the "feeling of impotence" of a power-seeker. The poodle certainly fits this type. >Let no dyke convince you that "shattered" or "vulnerable" is unmanly. Manly men mangle metaphors? I don't think so, sailor. >Were she not so "vulvable" herself, she would never have turned into brass. En inglis, por favor. >[Even as Jeaux scrambles for his kill-file, someone is sharpening her >"butch"-er knife.] Wtf? >The recruit goes through boot camp and >comes out a proud Marine, ready to KILL for his country. Is not God even >more to kill for than a country? Pumping up your level of rhetoric and bringing Him into it, doesn't add meaning to your message. >"Zeal" is the issue. A powerful quality, it must be handled as carefully as >a loaded gun. Okay, so maybe you're not a twit. >There is nothing denigrating about seeking and being drawn to >groups that wave a flag and represent themselves as models of virtue. It's >called advertising--a tool for the just as well as the unjust. The FTC is beginning to wake up some "truth in advertising" awareness. >To the extent that we are materialistic we may be guided by our genes. But >to the extent that we seek to be transcendant we dramatize our culture >rather than our genetic code. I think I might agree that memes made me bait >for Scientology, but genetic influence was neglible, if present at all. No doubt years of "research" into your own existence has produced that conclusion. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *