Path: rambo.bobo.net!xs4all!xs4all!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.concentric.net!207.155.183.80.MISMATCH!global-news-master From: inFormer@informer.org (Rev Dennis Erlich) Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Re: "Shattered" minds Date: 22 Nov 1998 20:30:22 PST Organization: inFormer Ministry [a 501(c)3 non-profit, religious organization] "... in service of cult victims and their families." Lines: 29 Message-ID: <365fe2aa.7715711@news.concentric.net> References: <36434818.32145259@news.tiac.net> <366021c8.14427585@news.concentric.net> <7391qn$2se@enews3.newsguy.com> <739gjg$b4i$1@juliana.sprynet.com> <739scm$m72$1@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Reply-To: informer@informer.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ts038d21.lax-ca.concentric.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: rambo.bobo.net alt.religion.scientology:146903 ceon@u.washington.edu (Ceon Ramon): >But why use the word "rape" at all? Yea, you are probably right. >It's not necessary to describe humilation, >or terror, or manipulation, or theft. It's just not an appropriate word >in other contexts. Just the fact that it is offensive to those who have been >literally raped should be enough for people to respect the unique >nature of that experience and have enough sensitivity to limit their use of >the word to its true meaning. Yea, okay. >Belonging to a cult is not the equivalent of being raped. There are good >words available to describe that experience that do not include the word >that means exploiting someone sexually with force and without their consent. Exploiting people's minds and souls. Mindfuck works for me. But it is funny to hear so many ex-cultists describe it as a kind of spiritual rape. They should probably just keep their holes shut or get their own word. Rev Dennis Erlich * * the inFormer * *