Date: 04-07-95 20:43 From: John Musselwhite To: Jerry Wilcox Subj: BAPTISM JW> (cristian) would force this or any other false truths onto a child. JW> The truth is simple. Read John 3:16 If John tells the truth in 3:16, what are the words he/they put into Jesus' mouth in 3:13? "No one has ascended into heaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man." Had John (or Jesus) never read 2 Kings 2:11? "And Elijah went up like a whirlwind into heaven." Jesus certainly should have known who ascended into heaven... Why is John telling the truth in 3:16 yet making Jesus either deliberatly lie in 3:13 or else having him refer to Elijah and not himself as the Son of man (or Adam as is more accurate) and totally confusing the issue? John