From: "roger gonnet" <roger.gonnet@worldnet.fr>
Subject: HEBER IS TO BE FOUND GUILTY...
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:02:01 +0200
Message-ID: <9i16oi$nj3$8@news4.isdnet.net>
Fine: While Heber Jentzsch has been evidently informed about all the steps
of the prosecution, while he knows perfectly well how much has been paid by
his criminal maffia to free him from jail years ago; while he knows that his
criminal maffia has sent some of its best attorneys to manipulate the US
Embassy in Madrid, and therefore, to try to manipulate the spanish justice;
while Heber is absent to his suit, it clearly shows that he can be
considered guilty from the whole bunch of charges.
Remember: the criminal guru founder of the scientology scam had been accused
in France of two counts (fraud and extorsion) years ago. He was himself ,
with the help of his top senior officers and of his wife, the one leading
the trial from outside; he was toatlly informed of the fact he could go to
jail if he had been present then; but he decided, like Heber in Spain, to
flee the human justice.
Since France has another law than Spain about judging in abstentia, the
criminal guru Hubbard was found guilty (he was indeed), and was sentenced to
4 years jail plus amend.
If Heber had been sued in france, he would'nt have risked 56 years, but
more probably, something like six or eight, or 5 years plus a very large
amend. But he would **have been sentenced** in abstentia. Judging in
abstentia people who are evidently aware of the fact that they have been
manded before courts, and who fled, is a very normal way for democracies. It
should be applied everywhere.
Look, even though he was innocent, Keith was sentenced to an enormous 200
days in jail, just because of a joke, and some curses about scientology?? In
France, he would not have had to flee, and the suit would not even had to
come to the trial before courts: it would have been dismissed during the
instruction, and clams would have been sued then, because of abuse of the
judicial process.
Now, that does not stop a guy who had been sentenced in abstentia, to come
back, be under arerst, and then ask for an appeal. Those guys can get those
appeals won if they are not abd faithed and bad mouthed and evil-intended,
like most upper scientologists are about justice.
roger
Joel J. Hanes <joel554@home.com> a écrit dans le message :
bh28ktg95s0m8um76krtskh8376pi3upnq@4ax.com...
> original Spanish follows unusually awful babelfish output.
>
> Lianna, could you maybe help us out here?
>
> ------------------
>
> It takes the judgment to the Church of the Cienciología
> without its world-wide leader
>
> The justice of the U.S.A. alleges that it has not been able
> to mention to him personally
>
> JOSE ANTONIO HERNANDEZ | Madrid
>
> The judgment against 16 members of the Church of the Cienciología
> began yesterday in the Hearing of Madrid in spite of the
> incomparecencia of the main defendant and world-wide leader
> of this organization, Heber Jentzsch, that resides in the Angels
> (the United States). The court decided to judge the 16 criminals
> who yes attended, the majority members of Dianética and Narconón,
> and to celebrate another Vista against Jentzsch if sometimes
> he comes to Spain.
>
> The North American Department of Justice sent a fax to the
> Hearing of Madrid indicating that ' rogatoria was no podidó
> to execute the commission that to him east Spanish court
> sent so that he mentioned personally to Jentzsch for the judgment.
>
> The decision to celebrate the judgment was answered by the
> public prosecutor, who announced the possibility of resorting
> it before the Supreme Court because he considers that Jentzsch
> (for that requests a total of 56 years of jail by 12 crimes:
> injuries, illicit association, threats and fiscal fraud,
> among others) are a fundamental part in this process.
> The 16 criminals who yes appeared supported, however,
> that was celebrated the Vista against them without the
> presence of its leader. Thus step the morning.
>
> Today, the parts will raise their previous questions and soon
> the interrogations will begin. The public prosecutor imputes a
> ten of crimes to these 16 defendant, and demands for them
> 26 years of jail.
>
> The Cienciología settled down in Spain in 1968 to expand
> the doctrine of its founder, Ronald Hubbard, and with the
> purpose of catching people with depresivos problems and of
> drug addiction to put under them expensive short courses
> with the promise to purify its spirits and to heal its evils,
> according to describes the public prosecutor in its writing
> of accusation, in which it erases to Cienciología of ' sectá.
>
>
> The therapies, say the public prosecutor, caused serious mental
> upheavals to tens of people, but, accidentally, no of those
> supposed victims has been personado in this judgment.
>
>
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>
>
> Arranca el juicio a la Iglesia de la Cienciología sin su líder mundial
>
> La justicia de EE UU alega que no ha podido citarle personalmente
>
>
>
>
> JOSÉ ANTONIO HERNÁNDEZ | Madrid
> El juicio contra 16 miembros de la Iglesia de la Cienciología
> se inició ayer en la Audiencia de Madrid pese a la incomparecencia
> del principal acusado y líder mundial de esta organización,
> Heber Jentzsch, que reside en Los Ángeles (Estados Unidos).
> El tribunal decidió juzgar a los 16 reos que sí asistieron,
> la mayoría miembros de Dianética y Narconón, y celebrar
> otra vista contra Jentzsch si alguna vez viene a España.
>
>
> El Departamento de Justicia norteamericano envió un fax a
> la Audiencia de Madrid indicando que no 'había podido'
> cumplimentar la comisión rogatoria que le envió este
> tribunal español para que citase personalmente a Jentzsch
> para el juicio.
>
>
>
> La decisión de celebrar el juicio fue contestada por el fiscal,
> que anunció la posibilidad de recurrirla ante el Tribunal Supremo
> porque considera que Jentzsch (para quien pide un total de 56 años
> de cárcel por 12 delitos: lesiones, asociación ilícita, amenazas
> y fraude fiscal, entre otros) es una parte fundamental en este proceso.
> Los 16 reos que sí comparecieron apoyaron, en cambio, que se celebrase
> la vista contra ellos sin la presencia de su líder. Así paso la mañana.
>
>
>
> Hoy, las partes plantearán sus cuestiones previas y luego empezarán
> los interrogatorios. El fiscal imputa una decena de delitos a estos
> 16 acusados, y reclama para ellos 26 años de cárcel.
>
>
>
> La Cienciología se estableció en España en 1968 para expandir
> la doctrina de su fundador, Ronald Hubbard, y con el fin de captar
> personas con problemas depresivos y de drogadicción para someterlas
> a costosos cursillos con la promesa de purificar sus espíritus
> y sanar sus males, según describe el fiscal en su escrito de acusación,
> en el que tacha a Cienciología de 'secta'.
>
>
>
> Las terapias, dice el fiscal, provocaron graves trastornos
> mentales a decenas de personas, pero, casualmente, ninguna
> de esas supuestas víctimas se ha personado en este juicio.
>
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