Having read all the net stuff about Lisa and many other murders/suicides associated with Scientology, I doubt if we should call it 'murder' since it seems murder must have an 'evil intent'. I doubt if her 'caregivers' (LOL!) did have evil intent, except that the whole shebang is one great evil intent! However, I wish to go on record as accusing them of gross negligence, incompetency and holding, blindly to false data and thereby causing the death of the one they should have been helping. 'Help as betrayal!' Had I have been in charge, Lisa would still be here, living and dancing, because I know the 'Tech' and they didn't and because I can audit, in PT, by the seat of my pants on the auditing chair and they were too frightened to respond to the needs of the moment! I will backup that assertion by detailing what I would have done; just in case anyone on these NBs is unfortunate enough to have to confront a psychotic breakdown. First, I would have approached her with total confront, letting her know that I would not be drawn into her abberative game. That with highest ARC and unconditional love. Scns. will stop reading now, at the idea of anyone auditing with ARC and love! I would sit, stand or even lie next to her and I would ignore psychotic body language, gently acknowledge borderline comm. and accept and validate any motion towards sanity! I invented and succeeded with that process, 2 years before Scn. ever came out. That much IS in their Tech. I haven't seen any Tech for 40 years but I have a long and accurate memory. LRH did describe that way of handling a psychotic. They didn't KNOW their own Tech! They were operating out of ignorance and incompetency! Having established a little ARC and allayed her fears and desperation, I would handle her verbal comm. the same way. To these main processes, I would add, as seemed good timing; massage, aromatherapy, Dr. Steve Jarvises 'Body Assist' etc., I would have had competent assistants doing those round the clock. I have worked as a 'Spiritual Healer' with an all-purpose, easy, efficient method of direct comm. thetan (spirit) to thetan and opening to the Total All-That-Is Theta Pool. Of course, people who study a so called "Spiritual Technology (Ha! ROTFLOLASTDC, rolling on the floor, laughing out loud and scaring the damned cat!) can't be expected to know anything about direct theta healing, can they? They killed Lisa by ignorance and incompetency. The senior members, in charge above them should also be made accountable for neglect as well. And the doctor who perscribed without seeing her is no more competant than they are! Wonder if hes the dr. who perscribes vitamine tabs for epliespy? Not that I would allow it to happen, but if she insisted on going south into bad body condition and worsening mental condition, I would have called the medicos, way before the point of no return. Their ignorance, trust in false data and incompetency reached a peak just before Lisa took the ultimate way of escaping their clutches! The worst feature of this case is that if the CoS pays out enough money and gets away with it we will see more of the same! Eric.