from Rita Boykin's testimony on teh Clearwater PD cd in Lisa's case (sorry I don't have the number right handy...) Q. Where was the room? 22 A. At the back of the Fort Harrison, in the area 23 referred to as the cabana. 24 Q. What floor was that? 25 A. The first floor. 1 Q. First floor? 2 A. Ground level. 3 Q. Ground level, okay. Do you remember what 4 room it was? The third to the right, second to the 5 right? 6 A. Well, coming down the corridor in the Fort 7 Harrison, you know, the external corridor, you turn 8 right and it was the first room. 9 Q. Okay. 10 A. It was one seventy-five, one seventy-eight. 11 Q. Was that a single-occupancy room? 12 A. It had two double beds in it. Ok, now, from Brian Anderson's interview which starts at 3159 (this is toward the end of his) Q. The night that Detective Sudler and 17 Sergeant Teunis came or the day -- the next day to 18 investigate this, I understand from trying to read some of 19 the old reports that you were present and they had some 20 interviews that were conducted over at the -- 21 A. Clearwater Bank building. 22 Q. Yeah. And there was a time when they were taken 23 to the room -- 24 A. Yes. 25 Q. -- where Lisa was kept. Were you with them at 149 1 that time? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. Could you describe the room when you walked in 4 there that day to show the Detective and the Sergeant? Do 5 you remember? 6 A. Yeah. The room had been made up. 7 You mean like the state of the room? 8 Q. Yeah, what it looked like when you opened the door 9 to show the two Detectives, this is where Lisa stayed. 10 A. Yeah. The bed was made. The room was orderly. 11 Q. Okay. 12 A. And we took them into the room. Tom Hilliard 13 didn't want to go in. He was, I'm not going in there. But 14 the other Officers did. 15 Q. Okay. One bed in the room, do you remember? 16 A. I think it was one. 17 Q. Okay. The reason I bring it up is that in reading 18 their reports, this was the -- this was, I don't want to say 19 the crime scene, God forbid, this is where this happened, 20 Lisa got sick there, she stayed there, got sick there and 21 was taken died en route to the hospital or at the hotel. 22 A. Or at the hospital. 23 Q. Yeah, or at the hospital. 24 This is the room that was presented to the police 25 as where Lisa was kept. And in reading their reports, there 150 1 was never any mention whatsoever that this room looked 2 different. Now, I read through the caretaker reports, like 3 you have, and you come to find out that the room is trashed, 4 the room had two beds in it. 5 A. It might have had two beds in it. 6 Q. It only had one. The Officers indicate in their 7 reports there was only one. 8 So what I'm getting at, whose -- whose decision 9 was it to change this room completely from what it looked 10 like the night before when Lisa was carried out of this room 11 to the next day when it looked so beautiful, with water 12 there and -- 13 A. Yeah, the night before I had directed someone to 14 disinfect the room on suggestions by Dr. Minkoff. 15 Q. Okay. For the meningitis possibility? 16 A. Yeah. 17 Q. Okay. You see my concern, you know, if I 18 looked -- if I read their reports on where Lisa died, this 19 beautiful room with one bed in it only, completely nice, 20 with fruit on the fruitstand and water all over the place, 21 yet when I read the caretaker's report from the 22 5th of December it was a hell hole, there was nothing inside 23 the place, there was vomit and feces all over the room. 24 And I was trying to find out, that was your 25 decision only based on the meningitis, that's it? 151 1 A. Yeah. 2 Q. Okay. 3 A. I mean, the direction was to -- we asked 4 Dr. Mirikoff -- I asked Dr. Minkoff what should we do 5 regarding the room. And I don't know if we are talking 6 about this meningitis thing. And he said -- I said -- 7 MR. NcGARRY: Is that December 5th? Is that 8 the night of December 5th? 9 THE WITNESS: Yes. 10 MR. McGARRY: On the telephone? 11 THE WITNESS: Yes. 12 A. And I asked him should we disinfect that room. 13 And he said, Yeah, it probably wouldn't hurt -- it 14 wouldn't -- it wasn't like get down there and disinfect it. 15 It wouldn't hurt to do that, it probably would be a wise 16 move to do it. If someone straightened up the room at the 17 same time, it's probably what happened. My concern was -- 18 Q. I want to say for the record, it went beyond 19 straightening it up. We had a room with two beds and it was 20 a room with one bed. 21 A. It might have had two beds in the room. 22 Q. It did not. It was kind of like the maids in the 23 Holiday Inn commercial you see on TV where they've got the 24 chain saw, buzz. Now, if you go by Rita Boykin's explanation of where Lisa's room was, that room number is now 168. Then it's 170, 172, and finally what is now numbered 174. So, at least it looks from this information that room 174 that Lisa was in is not room 174 now but 168. When a Scientology staffer used a syringe to force a mixture of aspirin, Benadryl and orange juice into McPherson's throat while others held her down, it was "spiritual sustenance," the church argues.