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>Agent Strope: Well, how. .how much...how much liquid does it
> take to sustain good health water-wise?
>
> Dr. Podgorny: An average adult needs approximately 2,000 cubic centimeters of
> water a day. That is approximately four pints. This is to sustain.
> This is to cover losses in urine, in bowel movements, in
> breathing...you know...when you breathe out. You breathe out
> water vapor...you don't see it unless it's very cold. Like in North
> Carolina. And you lose a pint a day...when I say a day, I mean 24
> hours. You lose a pint in 24 hours of just breathing. You also
> sweat...even if you're not aware of it. Right now you are sweating
> but the air around your skin quickly picks up the vapor and you're
> not aware. And once you get to Florida, you're aware that you are
> sweating because your air is always super-saturated with moisture
> there. So you lose through skin, through breathing; through
> urine...your major losses. Some in bowel movements, some in
> tears, some in mucous, spit. And so you need roughly 2,000 CC's
> to remain in some kind of a balance. Now if you're gonna get up
> now and walk quickly for two blocks and come back, you're gonna
> lose more.
> Agent Strope: So...so just...just living and just...like you and I and Wayne are
> just existing. You're all building up a deficit at all times.
> Dr. Podgorny: Yes.
> Agent Strope: Of water.
> Dr. Podgorny: Yes, and we have to replace just the deficit, not anything else.
> Agent Strope: So...so then...then you get the accelerated heartbeat...
> Dr. Podgorny: Yes.
> Agent Strope: You're fighting...not eating or urinating...
> Dr. Podgorny: Absolutely.
> Agent Strope: Not replacing that water.
> Dr. Podgorny: Not replacing. You keep losing. And where does the water
> come...come...come from? From your tissues. That's where your
> skin...you know...gets dried up and pulled in and your roundness
> disappears and eyes get sunken in. This is much more graphic in
> little babies if you've seen some who've been neglected...how they
> look very gaunt because they're dehydrated. Water from tissues is
> taken up in order to use it. You do not have anymore reserve.
> Agent Strope: Would it...would it be out of the ordinary and given this scenario
> for a person to go into this period of time...maybe mentally not
> healthy but medically healthy weighing say 150 lbs. and coming
> out of this 17 or 18 days weighing 108 lbs. Is that...is that a
> possibility to lose that much weight when you're.;.?
> Dr. Podgorny: Oh yes. That's...that's a perfect match. Would you refresh my
> memory on how many days she was there?
> Agent Strope: About 17 days.
> Dr. Podgorny: 17 days. And I don't remember exactly. Those figures are specific
> that you told me about the weight?
> Agent Strope: Well, those are pretty near...approximate.
> Dr. Podgorny: Approximate.
> Agent Strope: Approximate.
> Dr. Podgorny: What was it...150?
> Agent Strope: Approximately 140 to 150 and about 108 lbs. That's all...
> Sgt. Andrews: 108 when she was weighed at the Medical Examiner's Office.
> Dr. Podgorny: So that's for sure?
> Sgt. Andrews: Yes.
> Dr. Podgorny: and we think about 140....
> Sgt. Andrews: Between 140 to 150 lbs.
> Dr. Podgorny: So at least a 30 lb....
> Agent Strope: Yeah. In that...in that area...yeah.
> Dr. Podgorny: That's about 2 lbs. a day...
> Agent Strope: Uh Huh.
> Dr. Podgorny: Is an average if you're not getting good nutrition.
> Agent Strope: Now would it be possible to lose it all in one day?
> Dr. Podgorny: No.
> Agent Strope: All in two days?
> Dr. Podgorny: Impossible.
> Agent Strope: Three days?
> Dr. Podgorny: Impossible.
> Sgt. Andrews: How about 12 lbs. in one day?
> Dr. Podgorny: Impossible.
> Agent Strope: Is it humanly possible to lose 12 lbs. in one day?
> Dr. Podgorny: Yeah, when a pregnant woman has a baby.
> Sgt. Andrews: (LAUGHS) Good...very good...
> Agent Strope: Other than that, is it?
> Dr. Podgorny: Other than that...
> Agent Strope: Is there....
> Dr. Podgorny: It's impossible...it's just impossible. And so you're not drinking or
> eating anything and you put out 3,000 CC's. That's 6 lbs.
> Agent Strope: Uh Huh.
> Dr. Podgorny: And you know...you ever done any boxing or been involved in
> boxing...in fighting?
> Agent Strope: Got in a brawl a couple of limes but...
> Dr. Podgorny: You know what those guys do...they take pills before they're
> weighed. And so you can take a pill and maybe lose another
> pound. And they don't eat...don't drink anything until they're
> weighed. Then they go and gorge themselves. But that is just
> impossible short of having surgery and removing parts of your
> body.
> Agent Strope: Now if you as a physician would see someone who lost 30 lbs. in a
> period of time and was under the same care of this young lady,
> that would alarm you wouldn't it? Would it not?
> Dr. Podgorny: Absolutely...absolutely. Even half of...half of that much.
> Agent Strope: Uh Huh.
> Dr. Podgorny: You know...people pay money to lose weight. And if they lose a
> pound a day, they are elated and their doctors are elated.
> Agent Strope: What...what...what is the first thing that a...if a person came into a
> hospital...you know...an accredited hospital with...with the type of
> person...type of maladies that you see here...what...what would
> you do...what is the first thing you'd do to treat her?,
> Dr. Podgorny: If she arrived toward the end of that situation or in the earlier
> stage?
> Agent Strope: Well, let's start at the early stages.
> Dr. Podgorny: It would be a critical situation. She's take to the Intensive Care
> Unit. A central venous line...you know what I.V. is. Instead of
> putting it in the arm, it's put through the chest...
> Agent Strope: Uh Huh.
> Dr. Podgorny: In the vena cava so that you can give a large volume...a large
> volume of I.V.'s.
> Agent Strope: Now...now excuse me. Are you talking...what time of day...what
> time of this series are you talking about...early on or towards the
> time she went to HCA...toward the end?
> Dr. Podgorny: Well, towards the end, she was essentially dead.
> Agent Strope: Okay. So you're talking early on.
> Dr. Podgorny: One...not the first or second day.
> Agent Strope: Okay. So maybe...
> Dr. Podgorny: Let's say five...six.. seven days.
> Agent Strope: Okay...okay.
> Dr. Podgorny: She already lost probably 10 lbs.
> Agent Strope: Okay. I wasn't clear on that.
> Dr. Podgorny: Yeah.
> Agent Strope: Okay. Go ahead.
> Dr. Podgorny: So you need to give her lots of I.V. fluids...both water and salt
> solution. You need to give her extra oxygen. You need to get her
> in the Intensive Care Unit. You need to quickly quickly do tests of
> her blood cell counts...her electrolyte sodium potassium
> chloride...check her liver function...her kidney function...check her
> eyes...electrocardiogram...a chest X-Ray to make sure she doesn't
> have TB for example. These are the initial things. And then you
> have to decide whether it will be possible to start nourishing her
> through the mouth...will she be cooperative. And you can feed her
> high caloric materials. Or the next step would be to put a tube in
> her stomach and inject food...you know...put it through a blender
> like babies...inject it through. Sometimes that's not feasible and
> we'll have to make a, little opening and put this tube directly to the
> stomach and put food in. Then there is such a thing that's called
> T&P...total parenteral nutrition...where specialists mix food
> materials in a sterile manner and it's given in the I.V. fluids.
> Agent Strope: Oh, I see.
> Dr. Podgorny: These would be the measures done, and of course need to find out
> what's wrong with her and obviously we would've found out that
> probably medically nothing real wrong with her but she has
> psychiatric problems. We'd have to give her medications for her
> psychiatric problems so that she feels better. And I think after a
> few days she would've improved and would've gone back to a
> ravenous appetite, eating everything.
> Agent Strope: We've...we've...we've heard conjecture by the other side...the
> defense I should say....that it's possible that this person in this
> minor car accident that happened on November 18th sustained
> some type of injury to her leg. And as a result of that injury, all
> the subsequent problems that she had were a result of that...
> Dr. Podgorny No evidence for it.
> Agent Strope: Were a result of that...
> Dr. Podgorny: Good excuse.
> Agent Strope: Do you see that as a plausible explanation for this?
> Dr. Podgorny: No.
> Agent Strope: Why not?
> Dr. Podgorny: Common things are common. She'd been bedridden and she'd
> been dehydrated. Those are much more common causes of such a
> problem in a young woman than in a minor car accident being hit
> in her leg. How many people do you know who are in a minor car
> accident and hit on the leg...how many of them get a blood clot on
> the lung?
> Agent Strope: I don't know many but do you know of any...are there any of those
> cases...mean I don't...
> Dr. Podgorny: They're very rare.
> Agent Strope: Very rare?
> Dr. Podgorny: Very rare.
> Agent Strope: I mean I bruise myself all the time. My wife's always banging into
> things. She's got bruises on her legs all the time.
> Dr. Podgorny: Just look at all the guys who play football and basketball and the
> truckers and people the way they work...they get banged up and...
> Agent Strope: If you...if you do bruise yourself to the point where you get a lot of
> bruising...say in a calf or something...
> Dr. Podgorny: Uh Huh.
> Agent Strope: Now wouldn't you have some pain or blue...some indication there.
> that there's a problem?
> Dr. Podgorny: There should. But the pathologist found nothing.
> Agent Strope: Nothing.
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