On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 15:54:40 GMT, hkhenson@rogers.com (Keith Henson) wrote:
>As it came out, they beat the criminal charges in her death and paid
>something close to $5.6 million for the civil case.
No. More than that. By Sandy Rosen's cocktail napkin estimate, the cost for the civil case alone, including the offshoots such as probate and the Texas breach case, added up to at least $20 million as of the time of the Minton hearings, which was at the time of the meetings with Minton in March 28 and 29 of 2002.
This was before the phenomenally complex and expensive Minton/Brooks hearings, the appellate history of the similarly phenomenally complex Texas breach case, the breach trial before Baird, difficult wranglings in probate court, absolutely absurd and protracted wastes of time before cult favorite Judge Robert W. Beach, various shenanigans in the Middle District of Florida, Minton's attempts to replace Dell Liebreich and replace her with a more cult-friendly estate representative, and other legal maneuvers of greater and lesser importance and expense.
The case settled on May 27 of this year, over two years after that.
Assuming the same burn rate prevailed from the filing date of February 19, 1997 to March 29, 2002, when Rosen made his impromptu notes, as thereafter, the prorated expenditure would be as follows.
1,865 days between February 19, 1997 - March 28, 2002, and $20,900,000 in expenses to that date would result in an expenditure per day of approximately $11,200 per day.
There were, between March 28, 2002, and the settlement date of May 27, 2002, 791 days.
Assuming the same prevailing burn rate, $8,859,200 would have been spent by Scientology during that time.
That would mean Scientology could have spent $29,759,200 for the civil case and its offshoots alone. If not that high, it was at least well over the $20,900,000 cited by Rosen.
I enclose the documents I cite as support for my numbers below. My assumptions are my own, though based on having followed the cases closely.
From: ptsc <ptsc@nowhere.com>
Subject: True monetary cost of the Lisa McPherson legal actions, well over 20
mil
Organization: The Buttersquash Conspiracy
Message-ID: <chdkb097u2bsdsnlplmodnd53a3l7eau51@4ax.com>
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 19:29:55 GMT
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http://www.whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/bob/exhibits/185.html
From Defendant's Exhibit 185 in the Minton hearings. These are handwritten notes by Sandy Rosen which lay out a sort of cocktail napkin math estimate of costs to date, used by Rosen during negotiations with Minton.
This section deals with Florida. The "to be paid" seems reasonable enough, so I will assume that they actually were paid.
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A Wrongful death paid $14,400,000 to be paid $4.5 mil B Breech case - Baird paid $1,000,000 to be paid $1,000,000 C Penick Case paid $700,000D (scratched out)
?? we paid $20,000
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I won't include the Penick case, as that is not directly related to the cult's killing of Lisa McPherson.
The total is $20,900,000 for the civil case and related cases, as related by Rosen.
However, this doesn't include other cases. For example, Scientology spent a considerable amount of time mucking around in the Middle District of Florida digging up an old case of Ken Dandar to allege misconduct, as well as other discovery disputes related to the case also in the Middle District. If you include Penick, the sum is higher.
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Then we move to Texas.
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A we've paid $555,000 B we are owned $308,000 we are ???? C we will pay $150,000
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Adding the numbers paid and to be paid, we have another $705,000.
Our total is now $21,605,000.
Additionally, there was an entire whole trial in probate court over whether Dell Liebreich had (among other things) forged Fannie McPherson's signature on a probate document. Probate Judge George Greer (the same idiot involved in the Terry Schiavo case which coincidentally also involved Judge W. Douglas Baird) then ruled that the cult had no standing to bring that probate case. Then, based on the Texas breach ruling, he was going to have a WHOLE NEW TRIAL on the issue. Yes, ANOTHER ONE, after he ruled that the first one was a total waste of time and completely irrelevant. (Another mooted issue now, and that trial never happened. The idiot Judge Beach was holding up the civil trial partly on the basis that, for no sane reason, he wanted to wait for the probate matter to be cleaned up, something Greer had no interest in doing.)
But that aside, the hard numbers are $21,605,000, and that doesn't even include some of the ancillary cases. Possibly Rosen lumped the probate stuff in with the civil case itself, but I think he probably didn't.
From: ptsc <ptsc@no.spam.here>
Subject: Exhibit 185
Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 12:33:10 -0500
Organization: ARS: Possibly the Most Malignant Newsgroup on Usenet
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From: hkhenson@cogeco.ca (Keith Henson)
Subject: Better copy of 185
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:57:52 GMT
Organization: Temple of At'L'An
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There is a much better copy of Exhibit 185 (Rosen's notes) up on http://whyaretheydead.net/lisa_mcpherson/bob/exhibits/Exhibit185-1.gifThe notes were from the March 8, 2002 meeting in Rosen's office and contain information that is somewhat repeated in the typed Yingling notes of the same day.
I think it is worth transcribing them--if we can figure out what he wrote.
I can give it a start, if anyone wants to correct and add to it, please do.
I Florida
A Wrongful death paid $14,400,000 to be paid $4.5 mil B Breech case - Baird paid $1,000,000 to be paid $1,000,000 C Penick Case paid $700,000
D (scratched out)
?? we paid $20,000
II Wolly
A We've paid $2.5 mill B Well have to pay $3.0 mill C Pos. $8.5million
III Armstrong (3 suits, 2 Nevada, i ???)
A We've paid $260,000 B Will have to pay $500,000
IV Henson
A we've paid $1,065,000 B will have to pay $350,000
V Ward
A we've paid $815,000 B will pay $75,000
VI European Cases
A we'v paid $80,000 B we will pay $25,000
VII Factnet
A we've paid $1,625,000
VIII Lopez
A we've paid $1,535,000
IX RTC vs ???
A we've paid $555,000 B we are owned $308,000 we are ???? C we will pay $150,000
X IRS Harassment
A we've paid $30,000 B we will pay $50,000
XI interest and trade disputes
A we've paid $32,000 B we will pay $150,000
XII Our planed RICO case
we've spent $40,000
XIII In addition
A cost of security guards special buses, etc Fla $2,995,000
B cost of security to ??? ??? Toronto, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Francisco $470,000
C cost of defe ??? Maria Pia Gardini in Italy and Fla [can't read the rest]
$22,000
You can get a lot of help out of exhibit 191, but the differences are perhaps more important than the places where 191 helps.
Suggestions and corrections welcome!
An annotated or linked version of this would also help certain people make sense out of these numbers.
Keith Henson
>What with the
>legal expenses they ran up, the whole bill might have come to $50
>million.
>
>But the profit company to scientology money transfers, alien importing
>scheme and court corruption didn't come out so it might have been
>worth it.
>
>Keith Henson
>
>PS. Don't tell me to take this to law enforcement. Been done and the
>only result was that the people who took it to them were threatened.