Haney: Bob enjoyed the confrontation

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18    BY MR. DANDAR:

19         Q    Did you ever hear Mr. Minton say, "Let's picket so
20    we can infect the jury pool on the Lisa McPherson case"?

21         A    I don't think that is at all what he was up to.

22    He had a very specific thing in mind.

23         Q    All right.  What was that?

24         A    He enjoyed coming into confrontation with the
25    management of Scientology, specifically with the higher-up
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 1    people.  The higher up the better.  He liked to engage in,
 2    you know, aggressive banter and, you know, that kind of
 3    stuff.  He enjoyed the confrontation.

 4         Q    Did he ever tell you that he was out to destroy
 5    the Church of Scientology?

 6         A    No.  Not specifically.

 7         Q    Okay.  Well, what do you mean, not specifically?

 8         A    Well, he just -- he had an idea that he could
 9    harass them into changing their behavior.  That was his
10    idea.  And I thought that was a bad idea.

11         Q    What behavior did he want to change?

12         A    He wanted them to not use mind control techniques
13    on their -- on their members.  And to not have secrets that
14    the people couldn't discover when they were members.  In
15    other words, that it was a transparent organization like
16    churches usually are where you know what the organization is
17    about when you join it.  That you can discover its motives,
18    its aims, its activities, as a member.  Scientology, you
19    can't do that as a regular member.