The issue was an appeal of the permits for Narconon in Warner Springs.
Three people (including myself) spoke against the permits. About 15 people, many of whom were local residents and egregiously ignorant of Narconon, spoke in favor of it. One of the pro speakers was a guy from Narconon, Newport Beach. Others were from Tucson Arizona and points east.
The bad news: The appeal to yank Narconon's permits was unanimously denied. The good news: after the meeting, I was approached by a woman from one of the supervisors' offices. Won't say which one, for obvious reasons. She thanked me for speaking, and gave me her card. I also made several valuable contacts in the Warner Springs community.
It should be noted that there will be a six and 12 month review of Narconon's permit to operate. That is why my contacts in the community will be valuable in the future.
There was much cheeping and hugging amongst the culties when they heard the ruling. Far be it for me to point out that they may have won a skirmish, but they haven't won the war!
This is true. Text of my address follows here:
I have been asked to speak to you about the Narconon programme. Narconon spelled with an O is not to be confused with Narcanon with an A. Narcanon is a slang term for a 12 step support group for family andfriends of addicts. Narconon is a front group of the Scientology organization. ABLE, the Scientology entity Association for Better Living and Education, holds the trademarks of Applied Scholastics, Narconon and Criminon.
You have a responsibility to protect San Diego County residents from organizations such as Narconon. The information provided in many documents should give you an indication that Narconon is not all that it's claimed to be by its supporters.
Narconon courses are identical to the same programs purchased by public Scientologists. It should be noted that the forms used in Narconon requires the applicant to acknowledge that it is a spiritual rather than medical treatment. This is a two part program consisting of Scientology training courses and the Purification Rundown, a regimen of exercise, saunas, and toxic doses of vitamins. It is well documented that the levels of Niacin given to those undergoing the Purif Rundown can result in permanent health hazards to people with compromised liver function.
With Hepatitis C being touted as a new epidemic of tremendous proportions, it makes little sense to approve a program which can endanger the health of recovering addicts at a time when they are trying to get their lives back together.
The final product of Narconon is Scientologists. This comes as no surprise to people who are familiar with the intense regimen of Scientology courses. While you may find some here today who will deny being members of the Scientology organization, you will not hear one word criticising L. Ron Hubbard from the true believers bussed in here today to deliver their dubious message of hope and success.
In closing, I would like to leave you with former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop's comments on the purification rundown as touted in a book called 'Diet for a Poisoned Planet.' Asked to comment on it, he said,
"My recommendation about detoxification is to keep away from it. You don't need it. I'm not sure it does what this book describes. It's dangerous. I don't think L. Ron Hubbard has credibility in the scientific world. The author's suggestions about detoxification can be detrimental to your health. " - C. Everett Koop, M.D.
Thank you.
--
Rev. Barb
Church of Xenu, San Diego
Chaplain, ARSCC
http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser
Message-ID: <3DF7CF4B.D2A6AFAC@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:50:35 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: County Board of Supervisor's meeting
Phil Scott wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2002 14:00:34 -0800, Zinj <zinjifar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <3DF7B3CA.C900418F@cox.net>, bwarr1@cox.net says...
> >> The issue was an appeal of the permits for Narconon in Warner Springs.
> >>
> >> Three people (including myself) spoke against the permits. About 15
> >> people, many of whom were local residents and egregiously ignorant of
> >> Narconon, spoke in favor of it. One of the pro speakers was a guy from
> >> Narconon, Newport Beach. Others were from Tucson Arizona and points
> >> east.
> >>
> >> The bad news: The appeal to yank Narconon's permits was unanimously
> >> denied.
> >> The good news: after the meeting, I was approached by a woman from one
> >> of the supervisors' offices. Won't say which one, for obvious reasons.
> >> She thanked me for speaking, and gave me her card. I also made several
> >> valuable contacts in the Warner Springs community.
> >>
> >> It should be noted that there will be a six and 12 month review of
> >> Narconon's permit to operate. That is why my contacts in the community
> >> will be valuable in the future.
> >>
> >> There was much cheeping and hugging amongst the culties when they heard
> >> the ruling. Far be it for me to point out that they may have won a
> >> skirmish, but they haven't won the war!
> >>
> >> This is true. Text of my address follows here:
> >>
> >> I have been asked to speak to you about the Narconon programme.
> >> Narconon spelled with an O is not to be confused with Narcanon with an
> >> A. Narcanon is a slang term for a 12 step support group for family
> >> andfriends of addicts. Narconon is a front group of the Scientology
> >> organization. ABLE, the Scientology entity Association for Better Living
> >> and Education, holds the trademarks of Applied Scholastics, Narconon and
> >> Criminon.
> >>
> >> You have a responsibility to protect San Diego County residents from
> >> organizations such as Narconon. The information provided in many
> >> documents should give you an indication that Narconon is not all that
> >> it's claimed to be by its supporters.
> >>
> >> Narconon courses are identical to the same programs purchased by public
> >> Scientologists. It should be noted that the forms used in Narconon
> >> requires the applicant to acknowledge that it is a spiritual rather than
> >> medical treatment. This is a two part program consisting of Scientology
> >> training courses and the Purification Rundown, a regimen of exercise,
> >> saunas, and toxic doses of vitamins. It is well documented that the
> >> levels of Niacin given to those undergoing the Purif Rundown can result
> >> in permanent health hazards to people with compromised liver function.
> >>
> >> With Hepatitis C being touted as a new epidemic of tremendous
> >> proportions, it makes little sense to approve a program which can
> >> endanger the health of recovering addicts at a time when they are trying
> >> to get their lives back together.
> >>
> >> The final product of Narconon is Scientologists. This comes as no
> >> surprise to people who are familiar with the intense regimen of
> >> Scientology courses. While you may find some here today who will deny
> >> being members of the Scientology organization, you will not hear one
> >> word criticising L. Ron Hubbard from the true believers bussed in here
> >> today to deliver their dubious message of hope and success.
> >>
> >> In closing, I would like to leave you with former Surgeon General C.
> >> Everett Koop's comments on the purification rundown as touted in a book
> >> called 'Diet for a Poisoned Planet.' Asked to comment on it, he said,
> >>
> >> "My recommendation about detoxification is to keep away from it. You
> >> don't need it. I'm not sure it does what this book describes. It's
> >> dangerous. I don't think L. Ron Hubbard has credibility in the
> >> scientific world. The author's suggestions about detoxification can be
> >> detrimental to your health. " - C. Everett Koop, M.D.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Rev. Barb
> >
> >Great work; great statement Barb.
> >Short and pithy and without hysterics, and likely to at least sow the
> >seeds of doubt that will result in the kind of 'obersvation' and
> >'inspection' that no Scientologist program can stand.
> >
> >Zinj
>
> Exactly.... and Im sure a batch of city officials have some URL's to look at
> now. Next, as soon as someone sues narcOnon and wins against the city on the
> basis that they should have known better...thier licensed to operate will be
> history.
>
> Phil Scott
Phil, here's the annoying thing. These people have been given a massive amount of information on Narconon, but they're apparently not paying attention. Covertly, they're thanking me for speaking. Yet they gave their approval, which I think was inevitable. However, the Narconon facility will have to walk the straight and narrow. They will be under close scrutiny, not only from the county, but the residents as well. I distributed a number of fliers with the URL of Chris Owens' new website. I believe Narconon did the same polling that they did in Bowden. They also had a community meeting and a nice tour of the facility. By all accounts, they are nice people that the folks of Warner Springs enjoy being around. Of course, they have no idea what a valence is.
Anyways, I think it was an overall success. If this Narconon is similar at all to other Narconons, there will be problems. This is an open lot. The counsellors live in a house 400 ft. up a hill from the residential cabins. Trees obscure the view. Highway 79 is just 50 ft away.
So, you've got some druggies who want to go out on the town? No problemo! Just walk out that front door and keep going! For some reason, the supervisors weren't too concerned about security and roaming beings which are half drug addict and half Scientologist!
Personally, I'd be worried!
>
> >--
> >Scientology is the *Cure* for escalating Health Care Costs
> >'We didn't think it was a big deal'
> >'She died! People die! - David Miscavige
--
Rev. Barb
Church of Xenu, San Diego
Chaplain, ARSCC
http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser
From: ronthewarhero@yahoo.co.uk (Chris Owen)
Subject: Re: County Board of Supervisor's meeting
Date: 12 Dec 2002 14:54:47 -0800
Message-ID: <f758becc.0212121454.2561ca7d@posting.google.com>
barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3DF7B3CA.C900418F@cox.net>...
> The issue was an appeal of the permits for Narconon in Warner Springs.
>
> Three people (including myself) spoke against the permits. About 15
> people, many of whom were local residents and egregiously ignorant of
> Narconon, spoke in favor of it. One of the pro speakers was a guy from
> Narconon, Newport Beach. Others were from Tucson Arizona and points
> east.
>
> The bad news: The appeal to yank Narconon's permits was unanimously
> denied.
> The good news: after the meeting, I was approached by a woman from one
> of the supervisors' offices. Won't say which one, for obvious reasons.
> She thanked me for speaking, and gave me her card. I also made several
> valuable contacts in the Warner Springs community.
>
> It should be noted that there will be a six and 12 month review of
> Narconon's permit to operate. That is why my contacts in the community
> will be valuable in the future.
>
> There was much cheeping and hugging amongst the culties when they heard
> the ruling. Far be it for me to point out that they may have won a
> skirmish, but they haven't won the war!
>
> This is true. Text of my address follows here:
>
> I have been asked to speak to you about the Narconon programme.
> Narconon spelled with an O is not to be confused with Narcanon with an
> A. Narcanon is a slang term for a 12 step support group for family
> andfriends of addicts. Narconon is a front group of the Scientology
> organization. ABLE, the Scientology entity Association for Better Living
> and Education, holds the trademarks of Applied Scholastics, Narconon and
> Criminon.
>
> You have a responsibility to protect San Diego County residents from
> organizations such as Narconon. The information provided in many
> documents should give you an indication that Narconon is not all that
> it's claimed to be by its supporters.
>
> Narconon courses are identical to the same programs purchased by public
> Scientologists. It should be noted that the forms used in Narconon
> requires the applicant to acknowledge that it is a spiritual rather than
> medical treatment. This is a two part program consisting of Scientology
> training courses and the Purification Rundown, a regimen of exercise,
> saunas, and toxic doses of vitamins. It is well documented that the
> levels of Niacin given to those undergoing the Purif Rundown can result
> in permanent health hazards to people with compromised liver function.
>
> With Hepatitis C being touted as a new epidemic of tremendous
> proportions, it makes little sense to approve a program which can
> endanger the health of recovering addicts at a time when they are trying
> to get their lives back together.
>
> The final product of Narconon is Scientologists. This comes as no
> surprise to people who are familiar with the intense regimen of
> Scientology courses. While you may find some here today who will deny
> being members of the Scientology organization, you will not hear one
> word criticising L. Ron Hubbard from the true believers bussed in here
> today to deliver their dubious message of hope and success.
>
> In closing, I would like to leave you with former Surgeon General C.
> Everett Koop's comments on the purification rundown as touted in a book
> called 'Diet for a Poisoned Planet.' Asked to comment on it, he said,
>
> "My recommendation about detoxification is to keep away from it. You
> don't need it. I'm not sure it does what this book describes. It's
> dangerous. I don't think L. Ron Hubbard has credibility in the
> scientific world. The author's suggestions about detoxification can be
> detrimental to your health. " - C. Everett Koop, M.D.
>
> Thank you.
Well done, Barb - you did a great job.
As I suspected, this shows that where Narconon is already entrenched in a state, the key battle is at the state rather than the local level. I gather that the main focus of the Warner Springs authorities was the zoning issue, not whether Narconon worked or not; they deferred to the Californian Department of Health on that issue. The CDH does allow Narconon to operate (there are already three Narconon branches in CA plus Friends of Narconon and Narconon's international HQ in Los Angeles), so any local authorities in CA are naturally going to follow its lead.
| Chris Owen - ronthewarhero@OISPAMNOyahoo.co.uk | |---------------------------------------------------------------| | NARCONON EXPOSED: The full facts about the Narconon program | | http://www.narconon-exposed.org |
Message-ID: <3DF940A0.D2373974@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:06:24 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: County Board of Supervisor's meeting
Chris Owen wrote:
>
> barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:<3DF7B3CA.C900418F@cox.net>...
> > The issue was an appeal of the permits for Narconon in Warner Springs.
> >
> > Three people (including myself) spoke against the permits. About 15
> > people, many of whom were local residents and egregiously ignorant of
> > Narconon, spoke in favor of it. One of the pro speakers was a guy from
> > Narconon, Newport Beach. Others were from Tucson Arizona and points
> > east.
> >
> > The bad news: The appeal to yank Narconon's permits was unanimously
> > denied.
> > The good news: after the meeting, I was approached by a woman from one
> > of the supervisors' offices. Won't say which one, for obvious reasons.
> > She thanked me for speaking, and gave me her card. I also made several
> > valuable contacts in the Warner Springs community.
> >
> > It should be noted that there will be a six and 12 month review of
> > Narconon's permit to operate. That is why my contacts in the community
> > will be valuable in the future.
> >
> > There was much cheeping and hugging amongst the culties when they heard
> > the ruling. Far be it for me to point out that they may have won a
> > skirmish, but they haven't won the war!
> >
> > This is true. Text of my address follows here:
> >
> > I have been asked to speak to you about the Narconon programme.
> > Narconon spelled with an O is not to be confused with Narcanon with an
> > A. Narcanon is a slang term for a 12 step support group for family
> > andfriends of addicts. Narconon is a front group of the Scientology
> > organization. ABLE, the Scientology entity Association for Better Living
> > and Education, holds the trademarks of Applied Scholastics, Narconon and
> > Criminon.
> >
> > You have a responsibility to protect San Diego County residents from
> > organizations such as Narconon. The information provided in many
> > documents should give you an indication that Narconon is not all that
> > it's claimed to be by its supporters.
> >
> > Narconon courses are identical to the same programs purchased by public
> > Scientologists. It should be noted that the forms used in Narconon
> > requires the applicant to acknowledge that it is a spiritual rather than
> > medical treatment. This is a two part program consisting of Scientology
> > training courses and the Purification Rundown, a regimen of exercise,
> > saunas, and toxic doses of vitamins. It is well documented that the
> > levels of Niacin given to those undergoing the Purif Rundown can result
> > in permanent health hazards to people with compromised liver function.
> >
> > With Hepatitis C being touted as a new epidemic of tremendous
> > proportions, it makes little sense to approve a program which can
> > endanger the health of recovering addicts at a time when they are trying
> > to get their lives back together.
> >
> > The final product of Narconon is Scientologists. This comes as no
> > surprise to people who are familiar with the intense regimen of
> > Scientology courses. While you may find some here today who will deny
> > being members of the Scientology organization, you will not hear one
> > word criticising L. Ron Hubbard from the true believers bussed in here
> > today to deliver their dubious message of hope and success.
> >
> > In closing, I would like to leave you with former Surgeon General C.
> > Everett Koop's comments on the purification rundown as touted in a book
> > called 'Diet for a Poisoned Planet.' Asked to comment on it, he said,
> >
> > "My recommendation about detoxification is to keep away from it. You
> > don't need it. I'm not sure it does what this book describes. It's
> > dangerous. I don't think L. Ron Hubbard has credibility in the
> > scientific world. The author's suggestions about detoxification can be
> > detrimental to your health. " - C. Everett Koop, M.D.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
> Well done, Barb - you did a great job.
>
> As I suspected, this shows that where Narconon is already entrenched
> in a state, the key battle is at the state rather than the local
> level. I gather that the main focus of the Warner Springs authorities
> was the zoning issue, not whether Narconon worked or not; they
> deferred to the Californian Department of Health on that issue. The
> CDH does allow Narconon to operate (there are already three Narconon
> branches in CA plus Friends of Narconon and Narconon's international
> HQ in Los Angeles), so any local authorities in CA are naturally going
> to follow its lead.
>
> | Chris Owen - ronthewarhero@OISPAMNOyahoo.co.uk |
> |---------------------------------------------------------------|
> | NARCONON EXPOSED: The full facts about the Narconon program |
> | http://www.narconon-exposed.org |
I had a great deal of difficulty contacting any of the locals who were opposed to the Narco-weenies moving into this old motel. Had I had time, I would have gotten them all up to speed on Narconon and Scientology. Land use issues, while important, lack "punch." I think that in all successful efforts to repel the Narconon program, the locals have been extremely well informed.
Following the meeting, I've been contacted by a few folks, both Warner Springs residents and staff from the Board of Supervisors office. By the time their six month review period is up, there are gonna be some HELLA informed people out there, thanks to your website. I even got a phone call from the Supervisor's office thanking me for speaking out. This isn't over. You shoulda seen the smarmy clams sticking all over each other like a bunch of ecstatic BTs when the Board unanimously approved their permits. They bussed 'em in from as far away as Newport Beach. There were also speakers in favor who live in Warner Springs. They hadn't a clue what they were talking about, but they were told that the good folks in Narconon will do cheap labor. It's not over. I've made connections with residents there (better late than never, eh?) and we're not finished with it yet. -- Rev. Barb Church of Xenu, San Diego Chaplain, ARSCC http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser
Message-ID: <3DF9DE31.619903B1@cox.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:18:41 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: County Board of Supervisor's meeting
Mary wrote:
>
> "barb" <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message news:3DF940A0.D2373974@cox.net...
> > Chris Owen wrote:
> > >
> > > barb <bwarr1@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:<3DF7B3CA.C900418F@cox.net>...
> > > > The issue was an appeal of the permits for Narconon in Warner Springs.
> > > >
> > > > Three people (including myself) spoke against the permits. About 15
> > > > people, many of whom were local residents and egregiously ignorant of
> > > > Narconon, spoke in favor of it. One of the pro speakers was a guy from
> > > > Narconon, Newport Beach. Others were from Tucson Arizona and points
> > > > east.
> > > >
> > > > The bad news: The appeal to yank Narconon's permits was unanimously
> > > > denied.
> > > > The good news: after the meeting, I was approached by a woman from one
> > > > of the supervisors' offices. Won't say which one, for obvious reasons.
> > > > She thanked me for speaking, and gave me her card. I also made several
> > > > valuable contacts in the Warner Springs community.
> > > >
> > > > It should be noted that there will be a six and 12 month review of
> > > > Narconon's permit to operate. That is why my contacts in the community
> > > > will be valuable in the future.
> > > >
> > > > There was much cheeping and hugging amongst the culties when they
> heard
> > > > the ruling. Far be it for me to point out that they may have won a
> > > > skirmish, but they haven't won the war!
> > > >
> > > > This is true. Text of my address follows here:
> > > >
> > > > I have been asked to speak to you about the Narconon programme.
> > > > Narconon spelled with an O is not to be confused with Narcanon with
> an
> > > > A. Narcanon is a slang term for a 12 step support group for family
> > > > andfriends of addicts. Narconon is a front group of the Scientology
> > > > organization. ABLE, the Scientology entity Association for Better
> Living
> > > > and Education, holds the trademarks of Applied Scholastics, Narconon
> and
> > > > Criminon.
> > > >
> > > > You have a responsibility to protect San Diego County residents from
> > > > organizations such as Narconon. The information provided in many
> > > > documents should give you an indication that Narconon is not all that
> > > > it's claimed to be by its supporters.
> > > >
> > > > Narconon courses are identical to the same programs purchased by
> public
> > > > Scientologists. It should be noted that the forms used in Narconon
> > > > requires the applicant to acknowledge that it is a spiritual rather
> than
> > > > medical treatment. This is a two part program consisting of
> Scientology
> > > > training courses and the Purification Rundown, a regimen of exercise,
> > > > saunas, and toxic doses of vitamins. It is well documented that the
> > > > levels of Niacin given to those undergoing the Purif Rundown can
> result
> > > > in permanent health hazards to people with compromised liver function.
> > > >
> > > > With Hepatitis C being touted as a new epidemic of tremendous
> > > > proportions, it makes little sense to approve a program which can
> > > > endanger the health of recovering addicts at a time when they are
> trying
> > > > to get their lives back together.
> > > >
> > > > The final product of Narconon is Scientologists. This comes as no
> > > > surprise to people who are familiar with the intense regimen of
> > > > Scientology courses. While you may find some here today who will deny
> > > > being members of the Scientology organization, you will not hear one
> > > > word criticising L. Ron Hubbard from the true believers bussed in here
> > > > today to deliver their dubious message of hope and success.
> > > >
> > > > In closing, I would like to leave you with former Surgeon General C.
> > > > Everett Koop's comments on the purification rundown as touted in a
> book
> > > > called 'Diet for a Poisoned Planet.' Asked to comment on it, he said,
> > > >
> > > > "My recommendation about detoxification is to keep away from it. You
> > > > don't need it. I'm not sure it does what this book describes. It's
> > > > dangerous. I don't think L. Ron Hubbard has credibility in the
> > > > scientific world. The author's suggestions about detoxification can be
> > > > detrimental to your health. " - C. Everett Koop, M.D.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Well done, Barb - you did a great job.
> > >
> > > As I suspected, this shows that where Narconon is already entrenched
> > > in a state, the key battle is at the state rather than the local
> > > level. I gather that the main focus of the Warner Springs authorities
> > > was the zoning issue, not whether Narconon worked or not; they
> > > deferred to the Californian Department of Health on that issue. The
> > > CDH does allow Narconon to operate (there are already three Narconon
> > > branches in CA plus Friends of Narconon and Narconon's international
> > > HQ in Los Angeles), so any local authorities in CA are naturally going
> > > to follow its lead.
> > >
> > > | Chris Owen - ronthewarhero@OISPAMNOyahoo.co.uk |
> > > |---------------------------------------------------------------|
> > > | NARCONON EXPOSED: The full facts about the Narconon program |
> > > | http://www.narconon-exposed.org |
> >
> > I had a great deal of difficulty contacting any of the locals who were
> > opposed to the Narco-weenies moving into this old motel. Had I had time,
> > I would have gotten them all up to speed on Narconon and Scientology.
> > Land use issues, while important, lack "punch." I think that in all
> > successful efforts to repel the Narconon program, the locals have been
> > extremely well informed.
> >
> > Following the meeting, I've been contacted by a few folks, both Warner
> > Springs residents and staff from the Board of Supervisors office. By the
> > time their six month review period is up, there are gonna be some HELLA
> > informed people out there, thanks to your website. I even got a phone
> > call from the Supervisor's office thanking me for speaking out. This
> > isn't over.
> > You shoulda seen the smarmy clams sticking all over each other like a
> > bunch of ecstatic BTs when the Board unanimously approved their permits.
> > They bussed 'em in from as far away as Newport Beach. There were also
> > speakers in favor who live in Warner Springs. They hadn't a clue what
> > they were talking about, but they were told that the good folks in
> > Narconon will do cheap labor. It's not over. I've made connections with
> > residents there (better late than never, eh?) and we're not finished
> > with it yet.
> > --
> > Rev. Barb
> > Church of Xenu, San Diego
> > Chaplain, ARSCC
> > http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
> >
> This is probably a dumb question since we dealing with Scientology. I also
> know nothing about the area in question. But...don't people dealing with
> addiction and treatment that could have physical effects have to be
> certified and or licensed? Isn't the City or County putting themselves at
> risk for a giant lawsuit for allowing this to go through? This doesn't
> count the lawsuits against the program and people who are claiming they are
> "treatment" providers. Just curious.
You know, one of the speakers read some statistics from Narconon's own website where a breakdown of Narconon inmates is shown. Drug dealers, drug users, jail records...none of that looked very good to the people of Warner Springs. That wasn't enough to convince the board. They chose to focus only on the land use and security issues, although an ungated facility with the councellors' house being out of sight of the residential facilities is rather disturbing. The counsellor's house is 400 ft. up a hill behind trees. There is no way nightime staff can keep an eye on the residents. It was also pointed out that the residential facilities are only 50 feet from Highway 79. What's to keep them from saying, "Screw this, I'm leaving." and running loose in the neighborhood?
Another point the supporters hammered on was that the residents are there of their own choice. Well, DUH! Given the choice between jail and a treatment center, what would YOU choose?
Apparently, approval of a rehab program lies with the California Alcohol and Drug Programs, not the county. I've written to their Director, with no response. http://www.adp.cahwnet.gov/
Give Kathryn P. Jett a note. Don't expect much in response, apparently the question "why, in the face of all evidence about Narconon, have you permitted them to operate a rehab facility?" is too hard a question to answer.
Apparently the only way we can kick the crooks out of the bogus rehab business is to get their certification yanked by the state. I'm not up to speed on how one should go about that. -- Rev. Barb Church of Xenu, San Diego Chaplain, ARSCC http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser
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Supervisors approve 30-resident Narconon treatment center By Brian E. Clark UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER December 12, 2002
WARNER SPRINGS The county Board of Supervisors yesterday gave the go-ahead for a Narconon drug and alcohol treatment center planned for the rural Sunshine Summit area, unanimously rejecting a neighbors appeal.
Backers of the program praised the supervisors decision. Narconon officials said they hope to open the 30-resident center at a former resort off state Route 79 early next year.
Chet Kalinowska filed the appeal in October after the county Planning Commission unanimously approved the project. Kalinowska argued that the 30-acre property did not have adequate water, and that security plans for a program dealing with drug addicts were inadequate.
Supervisors Bill Horn and Ron Roberts told Kalinowska and other opponents that they believed the center would use less water than previous tenants. They also said they were impressed that Narconon managers had agreed to drain a fishing pond and to limit the centers water use to less than 3 million gallons a year.
"As for the security, I dont have a problem with it," Horn said.
Jerry Marshall, the Narconon official who will manage the facility, said all program participants would have completed withdrawal therapy before coming to Warner Springs, and all would be there voluntarily. In addition, Marshall said, the center would have a full-time security director and three staff members living on site. There would be a dozen additional employees on site during the day, he said.
After the vote, Marshall met briefly with Kalinowska and urged him to call him with any complaints. For his part, Kalinowska took the vote stoically.
"I dont know what else I can do now but work with them and hope they will be good neighbors," he said. "Fortunately, this thing will come back for review in 12 months, so we can deal with problems then."
Supervisors also rejected pleas by Barbara Graham of San Diego to turn down the drug center because of its links to Scientology, which she said had a 50-year history of criminal behavior and abuse of members. Graham also said the Narconon program had a dismal record of rehabilitating drug and alcohol addicts.
More than a dozen supporters, ranging from parents to former addicts, praised the program. An equal number of Sunshine Summit residents spoke in favor of the center and said they welcomed it.
Bill Langill, pastor of the Oak Grove Community Church, praised the centers efforts to rehabilitate addicts and lauded its philosophy of community volunteering.
"Not only have they come to church services and bible meetings but they have repainted buildings in our neighborhood and helped rebuild roofs," he said. "They are a positive addition and good neighbors." ----------- Brian Clark: (760) 752-6761 brian.clark@uniontrib.com
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/northcounty/20021212-9999_7m12narco.html
From: idaj007@aol.com (IDA J 007)
Date: 13 Dec 2002 06:39:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Narconon Warner Springs makes the paper
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Narconon in Warner Springs
Looks as this is a fresh method to move in with their front group. Really sad that the supervisors did not take time to learn the truth. I remember early research on Narconon done by Calif. after they had spent upward of $300 thousand on this same program. It was found at that time to be unsatisfactory. The City of Palo Alto also funded the facility there. The funding ceased in l977 I believe. I hope because of your making an effort to inform them Barb that the ones running the show will do a better job than in Watsonville. Tragic accident involving four on staff in that facility.approx two years ago. . I believe there were two young men dead and one brain dead. The other young man was still in wheel chair the last I heard. He is fortunate to have family who took him in their care when he left the facility for good. Another party I heard from some time ago found her loved one decided to become a Scientologist and remain on staff. A sum of $l9,000 cost for her "treatment" was mentioned. I don't know if she will find out the Bridge is a really a Pier or not. One can always hope.
Ida J. Camburn
www.narconon-exposed.org ChrisO has done great research having spent six months to bring this to the public.
From: scncritic@yahoo.com (Marc)
Subject: Re: Narconon Warner Springs makes the paper
Date: 13 Dec 2002 15:38:27 -0800
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"Supervisors also rejected pleas by Barbara Graham of San Diego to turn down the drug center because of its links to Scientology, which she said had a 50-year history of criminal behavior and abuse of members. Graham also said the Narconon program had a dismal record of rehabilitating drug and alcohol addicts."
Well, at least you tried. Good job, Barb.
Marc
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Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:49:06 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Narconon Warner Springs makes the paper
Marc wrote:
>
> "Supervisors also rejected pleas by Barbara Graham of San Diego to
> turn down the drug center because of its links to Scientology, which
> she said had a 50-year history of criminal behavior and abuse of
> members. Graham also said the Narconon program had a dismal record of
> rehabilitating drug and alcohol addicts."
>
> Well, at least you tried. Good job, Barb.
>
> Marc
Yeah, well...I wasn't pleading. I merely stated some facts. Still, it's nice to be portrayed as a pathetic grovelling, pleading worm. Isn't it? -- Rev. Barb Church of Xenu, San Diego Chaplain, ARSCC http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser
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Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 12:54:02 -0800
From: barb <bwarr1@cox.net>
Subject: Government Agency Promotes Narconon
The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration has a website here:http://www.samhsa.gov/index.html
They have a searchable database for recovery programs. Just for fun, I punched in Newport Beach, CA. Narconon was the first listing! Gah! I emailed them from their contact page and gave them the URL of ChrisO's new website, Narconon Exposed.
Now is the time, folks. Email them. The cult is just waiting to get its paws on Faith Based funding from the Bush Administration. -- Rev. Barb Church of Xenu, San Diego Chaplain, ARSCC http://members.cox.net/bwarr1/index.htm
"$cientology sees the world this way: One man with a picket sign:
terrorism. Five thousand people dead in a deliberate inferno: business
opportunity.
$cientology oozes _under_ terrorists to hide." -Chris Leithiser