On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 21:09:50 -0800, "Fluffygirl" <cswazey@comcast.net> wrote:

>"M. Krotz" <M_K@fornikulture.com> wrote in message
>news:3E110B3C.4010200@fornikulture.com...

>> For some first hand knowledge, I would suggest asking the author of
>> "Clear Body Clear Mind," Michael Wisner, how well this program worked on
>> his son. Gregor Wisner, Michael Wisner's son, went through the Narconon
>> program and later was found dead in the Gulf of Mexico, drowned, with
>> cocaine in his system. Michael Wisner had effectively disconnected from
>> his son, and did not even attend his funeral.

>One isn't supposed to ingest cocaine on that program.

Nor afterward. The program claims a staggering success rate which is completely fraudulent. In fact, Narconon is notorious for people being on drugs or even dealing drugs while on staff.

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Former city man found guilty of heroin possession
Is now working as drug rehab counselor in Georgia

The Sunday News (Lancaster, PA)
9.3.2002

By Thomas L. Flannery

A former Lancaster man was found guilty late Friday of possessing heroin with the intent to sell the drug in September of 2000.

Anthony J. Mariani, 40, now of Dunwoody, Ga., also was found guilty of possessing drug paraphernalia.

Mariani, who has undergone voluntary drug rehabilitation and now works as a counselor for the inpatient Narconon program outside Atlanta, faces a possible 2-year mandatory minimum prison sentence.

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What's particularly interesting is that this very same individual, while awaiting sentencing, was one of the goons sent out to bug J. Pilkonis. He identified himself at that meeting as Deputy Director. That meeting was in early May of 2002.

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http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=20020503015258.07222.00006326%40mb-dd.aol.com&output=gplain http://tinyurl.com/3yhb

Later this afternoon, however, we got the big show. A reporter friend of mine from the rival paper in town called to warn me that the Narconons had stopped by her office and dropped off a few pounds of literature...and that they might be heading for our office. Turnedo ut to be true, as they arrived a few minutes later. Two of them, one of them a big lug who had been Mary Reiser's "bodyguard" at the zoning meeting. It was he who got up in my face in the parking lot that night when I asked Mary her religious affiliations. The other was Tony Mariani, Deputy Dirctor of Narconon in Atlanta.

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One would think such would disqualify someone as a counselor. This wasn't having a relapse. This was active dealing. As far as I can tell, Narconon has utter contempt for the suckers who come through its doors and in the case of Greg Wisner, any time he spent in Narconon was time he spent NOT getting real treatment. Of course, there's no way to prove that this actually caused his death, but in either case, someone was not getting actual treatment that they needed, and thanks to Scientology's disconnection policy, his father was disconnected from him.

I doubt you can assert that Scientology helped this man at all, and it certainly seems that it probably caused harm to have this guy who was already down trashed by his cultist dad after being swindled by a completely worthless fraud of a drug rehab. -- Liberty is better served by presenting a clear target to one's opponents than by joining with them in an insincere and useless brotherliness.

-Benedetto Croce