Laurie Appleton writes:
[...] LA> However, your question appears to indicate that you are LA> unaware of the new theory of evolution that has gained a wide LA> following, called Punctuated Equilibria. This postuates that LA> major changes "must have" happened 'RAPIDLY'. They postulate LA> that only catastrophic conditions could account for the such LA> rapid mutation rates that again "must have" ocurred! [...]
There is nothing "catastrophic" about the theory of speciation via peripheral isolates, which is what PE is founded upon. This indicates that Laurie is telling obvious falsehoods about PE. The reader is directed to Eldredge and Gould's original 1972 essay for the authoritative documentation that Laurie is, indeed, telling us falsehoods. Does Laurie intend to deceive us by doing this? The question may be resolved by the reader, who is encouraged to note the frequency with which Laurie repeats apparent falsehoods concerning PE, among other subjects. Ultimately, it matters little whether intent to deceive is present or absent; continued repetition of falsehoods leads one ineluctably to the conclusion that the source of those falsehoods is an unreliable source of information.
I have corrected Laurie concerning his claims about PE on a number of prior occasions. The following lines list dates upon which I corrected Laurie on basic points concerning PE and directed him to the primary literature. These are just what I currently have in an easily searchable database.
Date: 07 Aug 95 16:08:52 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 583345b2 Date: 09 Dec 95 09:56:21 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 5eaceafb Date: 12 Aug 95 10:13:34 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 5871abdf Date: 13 Aug 95 04:44:28 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 587bd5cd Date: 13 Oct 95 23:58:00 Date: 17 Oct 95 22:35:00 Date: 18 Aug 95 02:06:38 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 58bc58b4 Date: 18 Aug 95 02:17:08 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 58bc6837 Date: 21 Aug 95 13:26:24 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 58ea1060 Date: 21 Nov 95 00:17:00 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 5dad1db6 Date: 24 Aug 95 07:47:22 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 590ee173 Date: 27 Oct 95 21:57:00 Date: 07 Jan 96 15:56:26 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 602e551a Date: 07 Jan 96 17:09:32 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 602f01a5 Date: 07 Jan 96 17:15:50 MSGID: 1:124/1301.47 602f10d5My PE FAQ, which includes complete bibliographic entries for the original articles, is at the talk.origins archive, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/punc-eq.html.
Laurie Appleton writes:
[...] LA> Again your words seem to be an admission that you really LA> did NOT have any transitions that would "hold water" until LA> recently. Give you another year or two and your new birds LA> can be expected to go the same way as all the rest! [...]
Hmmm. It seems that I engaged Laurie concerning the existence
of transitional sequences before.
From Date: 18 Aug 95 02:17:08
If SciCre-ists are "well-informed" enough to comment on
evolution and evolutionary mechanism theories, why is it
that so few seem to have even a passing familiarity with the
biological evidence?
Look at this reference:
Barnard, T. 1963. Evolution in certain biocharacters of
selected Jurassic Lagenidae. In: Evolutionary Trends in
Foraminifera (G.H.R. von Koenigswald, ed.). Amsterdam:
Elsevier.
Now, it is up to you to show why the fossil sequence
described therein fails to show transitional fossils. After
you outline your objections to this sequence, I have another
100 or so sequences showing fine grained transitions ready
to go, one at a time, until either you demonstrate that none
are actually transitional, or you give up your ludicrous
claim.
Consider yourself challenged.
The bibliography comes from the examples in Tables 1 & 2 in
Roger Cuffey's excellent paper, Paleontologic evidence and
organic evolution, which can be found in Montagu's "Science
and Creationism" or the Journal of the American Scientific
Affiliation 24(4), just in case you want to get a jump-start
on the rest of the entries.
So far, Laurie has failed entirely to share with us his
analysis of Barnard's evidence. It's coming up on the
three year anniversary of the challenge, too. Perhaps
a small celebration will be in order.
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