From: hkhenson@cogeco.ca (Keith Henson) Subject: Re: Amicus, second draft Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 01:47:53 GMT Organization: ARSCC Message-ID: <3d0c9096.38429652@news2.lightlink.com> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 02:59:25 GMT, FRice@SkepticTank.ORG (Rev. Fredric L. Rice) wrote: >Xenu allowed hkhenson@cogeco.ca (Keith Henson) to write: > >>This is a second draft, still working on it > >This is stupid, stupid, stupid! Don't send it, Keith. The Judge Fred, it does not hold a candle to what is going down in her court. I was researching the Bob Minton Transcript Volume 14, Page 1861 1 they thought you had done, and you told us about 2 Mr. Rinder's baby. What was the second thing? 3 A Well, this concerned the -- the death of 4 Mr. Moxon's daughter, Stacy. Last year -- I think it was 5 last year in California. And, you know, myself and other 6 people more or less jumped on the bandwagon and said that 7 this girl was being held in a vault, an electric vault, and 8 ended up being electrocuted. And that was -- I know from 9 Mr. Rinder that this was a troubling thing for Mr. Moxon. 10 And what happened was the story that was told by 11 Scientology originally, that this was an accident, that she 12 had gone down in there, she had her foot on a metal ladder 13 and slipped in some oil with one foot and touched this 14 electrical generator. 15 And there wasn't -- you know, based on what I was 16 told, there was nothing nefarious about this, that this was 17 a young woman who was out on some break time and cared 18 about animals and was actually trying to save a squirrel, a 19 baby squirrel, that had gone down in this thing. Now, I know Bob is just speaking the scientology line about Stacy Moxon, but you would think they would do better or at least not use out and out lies that could be shown to be false with very little effort. For example, the OSHA report (which is somewhere on the web in scanned images) mentions that the soles of her shoes were clean of oil--which more likely was cooked out of Stacy as she lay across the wires for ten to twenty minutes while the guy who had been with her ran around trying to get the power shut off. The reports also don't mention any squirrels found with Stacy. It is interesting that this 2nd hand report mentions a metal ladder, something I was not aware of, though I knew the ladder was 2 feet shorter than the vault. And the idea that she was doing this on a break when it happened 10-15 minutes after the 10 am start of work on Sunday doesn't work either. (That's just enough time to get a ladder, remove the 240 pound manhole lid and place the ladder.) It makes sense if you are going to inspect a vault to do it early in the day before it gets intolerably hot. As for nefarious, eventually someone who knows will come out and confess. As for it being an accident, I think that is probably true, but it was an accident you could expect from this level of gross negligence. You do not have someone inspect for rats (with a metal ladder!!?) in a hot transformer vault if you have any concern for their life. Of course, that's the essence of scientology, they don't care for human lives, not Lisa, not Ashlee, not Stacy, or any of the dozens of other victims on the web. Buy into scientology and you are brainwashed into believing you are an immortal thetan who has picked up bodies thousands of times. What's one more or less? Keith Henson From: HR-Defense@aol.com (Human Rights Defense (ShyDavid)) Subject: Re: Amicus, second draft Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:33:15 GMT Message-ID: <3d0ba47b@news2.lightlink.com> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 01:47:53 GMT, hkhenson@cogeco.ca (Keith Henson) wrote: (Cut) > Fred, it does not hold a candle to what is going down in her court. I > was researching the Bob Minton Transcript Volume 14, Page 1861 > > 1 they thought you had done, and you told us about > 2 Mr. Rinder's baby. What was the second thing? > > 3 A Well, this concerned the -- the death of > 4 Mr. Moxon's daughter, Stacy. Last year -- I think it was > 5 last year in California. And, you know, myself and other > 6 people more or less jumped on the bandwagon and said that > 7 this girl was being held in a vault, an electric vault, and > 8 ended up being electrocuted. And that was -- I know from > 9 Mr. Rinder that this was a troubling thing for Mr. Moxon. > 10 And what happened was the story that was told by > 11 Scientology originally, that this was an accident, that she > 12 had gone down in there, she had her foot on a metal ladder > 13 and slipped in some oil with one foot and touched this > 14 electrical generator. > > 15 And there wasn't -- you know, based on what I was > 16 told, there was nothing nefarious about this, that this was > 17 a young woman who was out on some break time and cared > 18 about animals and was actually trying to save a squirrel, a > 19 baby squirrel, that had gone down in this thing. Bob Minton actually said this under oath? That he actually believes this bullshit? Pardon my French, but that's fucking crap..... he no more believes this than he believes Santa Claus brings all the children in Nigeria toy airplanes. > Now, I know Bob is just speaking the scientology line > about Stacy Moxon, but you would think they would do > better or at least not use out and out lies that could > be shown to be false with very little effort. What would have happened if Scientology Inc. had told the truth? I.e., told OSHA they had sent Ms. Moxon into the transformer vault to perform routine inspection and maintenance? > For example, the OSHA report (which is somewhere on the > web in scanned images) mentions that the soles of her > shoes were clean of oil--which more likely was cooked > out of Stacy as she lay across the wires for ten to > twenty minutes while the guy who had been with her ran > around trying to get the power shut off. Barb and I were at Scientology's Nazi Theme Park when Ms. Moxon was barbequed: the alarm sounded for aproximately eight minutes (my recollection may be off by a few minutes). A television news crew came by and told us that they heard over the radio that there was a car accident where the car had burst into flames: even while Ms. Moxon was still frying, Scientology Inc. had a "shore story" in place. It is my opinion that they had planned on moving the body into a car and then set the car on fire. Lovely people, eh? The OSHA report has in it several statements that are flat-out impossible for anyone to know: those statements are made as facts. http://holysmoke.org/sm/sm.htm has links to the OSHA report and links to commentary. The report states that no one saw Ms. Moxon go into the transformer vault; the report also states as fact things that only a witness of her actions could know. > The reports also don't mention any squirrels found with Stacy. It is > interesting that this 2nd hand report mentions a metal ladder, > something I was not aware of, though I knew the ladder was 2 feet > shorter than the vault. Scientology Inc. has a history of sending in children to do an adult's job. It does not, therefore, surprise me that every now and then someone dies because of this habit. > And the idea that she was doing this on a break when it > happened 10-15 minutes after the 10 am start of work on > Sunday doesn't work either. (That's just enough time to > get a ladder, remove the 240 pound manhole lid and place > the ladder.) It makes sense if you are going to inspect > a vault to do it early in the day before it gets intolerably > hot. The vault covers come in two sizes; 240 pounds and 320 pounds. I wonder who gave to her the tool required to move the cover. > As for nefarious, eventually someone who knows will come out > and confess. As for it being an accident, I think that is > probably true, but it was an accident you could expect from > this level of gross negligence. You do not have someone > inspect for rats (with a metal ladder!!?) in a hot transformer > vault if you have any concern for their life. Just about the only one who appears to consider the death anything other than an accident is Phil Scott. > Of course, that's the essence of scientology, they don't > care for human lives, not Lisa, not Ashlee, not Stacy, or > any of the dozens of other victims on the web. Buy into > scientology and you are brainwashed into believing you > are an immortal thetan who has picked up bodies thousands > of times. What's one more or less? The "grieving father," Ken Moxon, sure is not a prime canidate for "Father of the Year Award." Imagin having your daughter fried out of careless disregard for human life, and then be utterly unable or uninterested in seeking justice and retribution for that death. There's no bloody way Minton actually believes Ms. Moxon was wandering around in a transformer vault looking for a new pet. Minton isn't that goddamned stupid. > Keith Henson ---- "That Green Burrito is also a good place to get beaten up." --- Fredric Rice